This is an introduction to the design debate by Justin McGuirk, editor of icon. Download the complete audio file from our downloads page.

We at icon attend design debates from time to time, and it’s often disappointing how little debate they involve. So in an effort to kick up a bit of disagreement for yesterday’s icon day at Grand Designs Live, we set a deliberately provocative proposition and had four top designers argue it out. Now, you can listen to Jurgen Bey, Luke Pearson, Tony Dunne and Sebastian Bergne debating for and against the position “Industrial design is defunct” on this podcast.